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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Who You Know-or Is It?</title>
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	<description>Romance Writer &#38; Urban Fantasy Novelist</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.jordansummers.com/2008/02/28/its-who-you-know-or-is-it/#comment-13299</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiloh, I agree online image does come into play. Your friends mentioned you to an editor after you'd sold several ebooks. (And we're glad that they did or we couldn't have Through the Veil to look forward to. ;) I've heard of that happening many times, but not with unpubbed authors.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiloh, I agree online image does come into play. Your friends mentioned you to an editor after you&#8217;d sold several ebooks. (And we&#8217;re glad that they did or we couldn&#8217;t have Through the Veil to look forward to. <img src='http://www.jordansummers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> I&#8217;ve heard of that happening many times, but not with unpubbed authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiloh Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.jordansummers.com/2008/02/28/its-who-you-know-or-is-it/#comment-13298</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiloh Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connections had absolutely nothing to do with my getting started on my ebook career.

In a round-about way, knowing somebody might have helped with getting pubbed print, but not through anything I did.  I was friends with a couple of people who knew an editor at Berkley.  They mentioned me to her.  She checked me out and then contacted me.  But I never in my wildest dreams expected or considered something like that happening.

And I didn't 'use' those connections.  They just mentioned me.

One thing that WILL help is being professional.  Because both of these friends that passed my name on wouldn't have done it if I was unprofessional.  It's that image thing again.  ;)

The conclusion I've come to is that getting pubbed has do with luck, timing, and hard work.

I lucked into getting my book in front of a person who loved it @ EC.

I got into EC right when erotic romance was taking off and that definitely played into things.

Over the next couple of years, I had a book out with my epubs every 4-8 weeks, busting my tail to build a 'name'.

I tried to maintain a somewhat professional image.

All of that was what led the two friends of mine to passing my name onto that editor.

You can know all the people in the world, but if you don't work hard, if you don't carry yourself online somewhat professionally, and if the book you have doesn't appeal to an editor, it doesn't matter who you know or don't know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connections had absolutely nothing to do with my getting started on my ebook career.</p>
<p>In a round-about way, knowing somebody might have helped with getting pubbed print, but not through anything I did.  I was friends with a couple of people who knew an editor at Berkley.  They mentioned me to her.  She checked me out and then contacted me.  But I never in my wildest dreams expected or considered something like that happening.</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t &#8216;use&#8217; those connections.  They just mentioned me.</p>
<p>One thing that WILL help is being professional.  Because both of these friends that passed my name on wouldn&#8217;t have done it if I was unprofessional.  It&#8217;s that image thing again.  <img src='http://www.jordansummers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The conclusion I&#8217;ve come to is that getting pubbed has do with luck, timing, and hard work.</p>
<p>I lucked into getting my book in front of a person who loved it @ EC.</p>
<p>I got into EC right when erotic romance was taking off and that definitely played into things.</p>
<p>Over the next couple of years, I had a book out with my epubs every 4-8 weeks, busting my tail to build a &#8216;name&#8217;.</p>
<p>I tried to maintain a somewhat professional image.</p>
<p>All of that was what led the two friends of mine to passing my name onto that editor.</p>
<p>You can know all the people in the world, but if you don&#8217;t work hard, if you don&#8217;t carry yourself online somewhat professionally, and if the book you have doesn&#8217;t appeal to an editor, it doesn&#8217;t matter who you know or don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.jordansummers.com/2008/02/28/its-who-you-know-or-is-it/#comment-13297</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charli, I went the contest route and didn't know a soul. I was dumb enough to throw anything out there. Lucked out more times than not. Of course there were those years of writing classes...;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charli, I went the contest route and didn&#8217;t know a soul. I was dumb enough to throw anything out there. Lucked out more times than not. Of course there were those years of writing classes&#8230;;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.jordansummers.com/2008/02/28/its-who-you-know-or-is-it/#comment-13296</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeaniene, I can't believe that people are asking you about your 'in'. (shakes head) Yes, the truth is far from glamorous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeaniene, I can&#8217;t believe that people are asking you about your &#8216;in&#8217;. (shakes head) Yes, the truth is far from glamorous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn, ***I'd like to personally squash this perpetual idiocy. I sold my first two books without knowing or having met anyone in the publishing industry. I was a housewife with a subscription to Writer's Digest. That was it.*** I think sometimes that the internet hasn't done a lot of writers any favors because they get the wrong impression by reading various publishing stories. It's so easy to read a story where an author talks about meeting an editor and boom a deal happens. Very rarely are the 'behind the scenes' things discussed in these fairytales. (ie rejections, this being the fourth editor you made contact with, twentieth manuscript, etc.) I started taking classes without any knowledge of RWA. Came to them late.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn, ***I&#8217;d like to personally squash this perpetual idiocy. I sold my first two books without knowing or having met anyone in the publishing industry. I was a housewife with a subscription to Writer&#8217;s Digest. That was it.*** I think sometimes that the internet hasn&#8217;t done a lot of writers any favors because they get the wrong impression by reading various publishing stories. It&#8217;s so easy to read a story where an author talks about meeting an editor and boom a deal happens. Very rarely are the &#8216;behind the scenes&#8217; things discussed in these fairytales. (ie rejections, this being the fourth editor you made contact with, twentieth manuscript, etc.) I started taking classes without any knowledge of RWA. Came to them late.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.jordansummers.com/2008/02/28/its-who-you-know-or-is-it/#comment-13294</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernard, No, I don't think that's what they meant. It was implied that 'the in' made the difference and that the treatment should be better because of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernard, No, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s what they meant. It was implied that &#8216;the in&#8217; made the difference and that the treatment should be better because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If getting published depended on who I knew, I would've given up before I started. I sold pieces without knowing anybody (count me as another unknown with a WD subscription), submitted queries and mss. to major publishers without knowing a soul or having an agent, and when I eventually did sell my novels, I still didn't know anybody. This sounds like the mythical Secret Handshake of Publishing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If getting published depended on who I knew, I would&#8217;ve given up before I started. I sold pieces without knowing anybody (count me as another unknown with a WD subscription), submitted queries and mss. to major publishers without knowing a soul or having an agent, and when I eventually did sell my novels, I still didn&#8217;t know anybody. This sounds like the mythical Secret Handshake of Publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeaniene Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.jordansummers.com/2008/02/28/its-who-you-know-or-is-it/#comment-13292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeaniene Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"do you know of any unpublished authors who've received book deals because they're friends with the editors?" No. And that's sure not how I got my contract. I've been asked "what was your 'in'?" more times than I can count, and of course, there was no 'in.' I think the connections myth is so strong because people don't like the reality - that you have to query and revise over and over until someone caves in, you or an agent/editor :) Yeah, that's a lot less glamorous-sounding than the rumor that networking can get you sold, but it's still how it is 99% of the time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;do you know of any unpublished authors who&#8217;ve received book deals because they&#8217;re friends with the editors?&#8221; No. And that&#8217;s sure not how I got my contract. I&#8217;ve been asked &#8220;what was your &#8216;in&#8217;?&#8221; more times than I can count, and of course, there was no &#8216;in.&#8217; I think the connections myth is so strong because people don&#8217;t like the reality - that you have to query and revise over and over until someone caves in, you or an agent/editor <img src='http://www.jordansummers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Yeah, that&#8217;s a lot less glamorous-sounding than the rumor that networking can get you sold, but it&#8217;s still how it is 99% of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I read the comments and several referred to needing connections in one form or another in order to get published."&lt;br&gt;
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I'd like to personally squash this perpetual idiocy.  I sold my first two books without knowing or having met anyone in the publishing industry.  I was a housewife with a subscription to Writer's Digest.  That was it.&lt;br&gt;
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I did make the networking rounds the first few years after my first novel was published, but I never landed a single job.  That includes belonging to three writer organizations and going to about twenty cons, and talking to or pitching about a hundred editors.&lt;br&gt;
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All of the editors and clients who have approached me with job offers (regular and WFH) know me solely from my published work, my old web site and/or the weblogs.  That includes jobs I took writing for Eric Flint from Baen, a novel series for Guideposts, and a blog post that ended up in a how-to antho for Philip Martin/Scarletta Press.&lt;br&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I read the comments and several referred to needing connections in one form or another in order to get published.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to personally squash this perpetual idiocy.  I sold my first two books without knowing or having met anyone in the publishing industry.  I was a housewife with a subscription to Writer&#8217;s Digest.  That was it.</p>
<p>I did make the networking rounds the first few years after my first novel was published, but I never landed a single job.  That includes belonging to three writer organizations and going to about twenty cons, and talking to or pitching about a hundred editors.</p>
<p>All of the editors and clients who have approached me with job offers (regular and WFH) know me solely from my published work, my old web site and/or the weblogs.  That includes jobs I took writing for Eric Flint from Baen, a novel series for Guideposts, and a blog post that ended up in a how-to antho for Philip Martin/Scarletta Press.</p>
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		<title>By: BernardL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BernardL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a publisher, editor, or agent has experience with your work, I can see them taking a longer look at it. Other than that, I believe you're right, Jordan. They can't wave a magic wand and make bad writing good; but if it's good writing, having a friend on the publishing end couldn't hurt. Maybe that's what the lady meant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a publisher, editor, or agent has experience with your work, I can see them taking a longer look at it. Other than that, I believe you&#8217;re right, Jordan. They can&#8217;t wave a magic wand and make bad writing good; but if it&#8217;s good writing, having a friend on the publishing end couldn&#8217;t hurt. Maybe that&#8217;s what the lady meant.</p>
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